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		<title>By: sognatrice</title>
		<link>http://bleedingespresso.com/2007/11/murder-and-xenophobiatroubled-times-in-italy.html/comment-page-2#comment-7210</link>
		<dc:creator>sognatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Italian Woman, from what I understand they are paraphrasing what was allegedly said both in English and Italian even though it&#039;s in quotes. In the Italian publications, they write that Guede says the alleged killer said &#039;something to the effect of&#039; &quot;They&#039;ll blame you because you&#039;re black.&quot; They don&#039;t say exactly what he alleges was said.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In that sense, I wouldn&#039;t take too much from how awkward the phrasing is--we don&#039;t know exactly what it was in Italian either.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Using my creative brain, it could&#039;ve been something as simple as &quot;Sei fottuto nero&quot; (&quot;You&#039;re screwed, black man&quot;) which would imply what the newspapers have reported but be more colloquial. I just don&#039;t know. The fact is that they haven&#039;t reported the exact quote even in Italian, at least that I&#039;ve seen; I don&#039;t know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Italian Woman, from what I understand they are paraphrasing what was allegedly said both in English and Italian even though it&#8217;s in quotes. In the Italian publications, they write that Guede says the alleged killer said &#8217;something to the effect of&#8217; &#8220;They&#8217;ll blame you because you&#8217;re black.&#8221; They don&#8217;t say exactly what he alleges was said.</p>
<p>In that sense, I wouldn&#8217;t take too much from how awkward the phrasing is&#8211;we don&#8217;t know exactly what it was in Italian either.</p>
<p>Using my creative brain, it could&#8217;ve been something as simple as &#8220;Sei fottuto nero&#8221; (&#8220;You&#8217;re screwed, black man&#8221;) which would imply what the newspapers have reported but be more colloquial. I just don&#8217;t know. The fact is that they haven&#8217;t reported the exact quote even in Italian, at least that I&#8217;ve seen; I don&#8217;t know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Italian Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Italian Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They will think that it is you because you are black.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Does this comment sound more believable in the original Italian? Because in English it sounds totally made up. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe, maybe if I&#039;d just killed somebody I&#039;d have time to say, &quot;They&#039;re gonna blame the black.&quot; Which is how we&#039;d say it in America. But I doubt it. I&#039;d just get the hell out of there before people discovered who I was.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, are Italian killers just more polite in their language? Is that why I just don&#039;t believe a word of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They will think that it is you because you are black.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this comment sound more believable in the original Italian? Because in English it sounds totally made up. </p>
<p>Maybe, maybe if I&#8217;d just killed somebody I&#8217;d have time to say, &#8220;They&#8217;re gonna blame the black.&#8221; Which is how we&#8217;d say it in America. But I doubt it. I&#8217;d just get the hell out of there before people discovered who I was.</p>
<p>Anyway, are Italian killers just more polite in their language? Is that why I just don&#8217;t believe a word of it?</p>
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		<title>By: sognatrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>sognatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info coming out. Guede says that the Meredith whispered the killer&#039;s name before she died and that as he struggled with the alleged killer, the brown-haired, no glasses-wearing Italian said to him &quot;They will think that it is you because you are black.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Article at &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=S3M5ST12RKI2DQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/11/25/wmeredith125.xml&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Telegraph.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info coming out. Guede says that the Meredith whispered the killer&#8217;s name before she died and that as he struggled with the alleged killer, the brown-haired, no glasses-wearing Italian said to him &#8220;They will think that it is you because you are black.&#8221;</p>
<p>Article at <a HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=S3M5ST12RKI2DQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/11/25/wmeredith125.xml" REL="nofollow">Telegraph.co.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: sognatrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>sognatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Italian Woman, I hear you. I&#039;m *very* &quot;innocent until proven guilty&quot; sometimes even to a fault, but this isn&#039;t looking good for Knox. She (or someone) really needs to explain *why* her memory is so poor and scattered otherwise it just looks like all a bunch of lies.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On the bright side for her, the new man arrested (who was *definitely* there at the time of the murder) has said she wasn&#039;t there. Of course that would lead to wonder why she remembers covering her ears from Kercher&#039;s screams....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I read in the Italian news yesterday that more witnesses are coming forward who heard commotion, that there was likely another female in the apartment because of a print in the blood of a stiletto, and more.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Such a sad, tragic mystery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italian Woman, I hear you. I&#8217;m *very* &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221; sometimes even to a fault, but this isn&#8217;t looking good for Knox. She (or someone) really needs to explain *why* her memory is so poor and scattered otherwise it just looks like all a bunch of lies.</p>
<p>On the bright side for her, the new man arrested (who was *definitely* there at the time of the murder) has said she wasn&#8217;t there. Of course that would lead to wonder why she remembers covering her ears from Kercher&#8217;s screams&#8230;.</p>
<p>I read in the Italian news yesterday that more witnesses are coming forward who heard commotion, that there was likely another female in the apartment because of a print in the blood of a stiletto, and more.</p>
<p>Such a sad, tragic mystery.</p>
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		<title>By: Italian Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Italian Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to give Amanda the benefit of the doubt, because I live in Seattle and she looks like a typical Seattle girl,athletic, healthy, granola. On the ferry over to my brother&#039;s for Thanksgiving yesterday I saw so many girls who look like her. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But then I learn that she and the boyfriend were shopping for thong panties after the murder. And engaging in PDA. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I no longer believe anything she says. Expect that she was telling the truth when she said that she doesn&#039;t get embarrassed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to give Amanda the benefit of the doubt, because I live in Seattle and she looks like a typical Seattle girl,athletic, healthy, granola. On the ferry over to my brother&#8217;s for Thanksgiving yesterday I saw so many girls who look like her. </p>
<p>But then I learn that she and the boyfriend were shopping for thong panties after the murder. And engaging in PDA. </p>
<p>I no longer believe anything she says. Expect that she was telling the truth when she said that she doesn&#8217;t get embarrassed.</p>
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		<title>By: sognatrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>sognatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara, um, yes, a bit out of nowhere, I&#039;d agree. You responded well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I just read something over at Corriere della Sera (the Italian version) in which she wrote out yet another version of events. She says she had &quot;flashes&quot; of Lumumba in the apartment, etc. She also says Italian police hit her on the head when she didn&#039;t remember things....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rudy says he went back to the apartment with Meredith, felt bad, went to the bathroom, left his &quot;evidence&quot; and while in there, heard screams, etc. Says it was an Italian who killed her and then escaped.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Very interesting, as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, um, yes, a bit out of nowhere, I&#8217;d agree. You responded well.</p>
<p>I just read something over at Corriere della Sera (the Italian version) in which she wrote out yet another version of events. She says she had &#8220;flashes&#8221; of Lumumba in the apartment, etc. She also says Italian police hit her on the head when she didn&#8217;t remember things&#8230;.</p>
<p>Rudy says he went back to the apartment with Meredith, felt bad, went to the bathroom, left his &#8220;evidence&#8221; and while in there, heard screams, etc. Says it was an Italian who killed her and then escaped.</p>
<p>Very interesting, as always.</p>
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		<title>By: american girl in italy</title>
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		<dc:creator>american girl in italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had to write you and tell you to come read an anonymous post someone left on my blog under &quot;patrick lumbaya released&quot; very bizarro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had to write you and tell you to come read an anonymous post someone left on my blog under &#8220;patrick lumbaya released&#8221; very bizarro.</p>
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		<title>By: sognatrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>sognatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara, well I do appreciate your efforts to keep my blog &quot;clean&quot; ;)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And I completely agree with you about Knox&#039;s reactions following what happened; from all accounts she was as cool as the proverbial cucumber and whether she had a part in it or not, well, that&#039;s a bit odd. Of course I always say we never know how we&#039;d react in a similar situation, so I don&#039;t like to judge other people&#039;s reactions *too* much. But still!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That knife found in Sollecito&#039;s apartment with both her and Kercher&#039;s DNA--that&#039;s going to be tough to explain since Kercher had reportedly never been to his apartment. Doesn&#039;t seem she&#039;ll be getting out of custody any time soon.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Another thing which is rather minor, but it&#039;s still bugging me--  we all keep saying her &quot;boyfriend&quot;...they knew each other for 2-3 weeks! I don&#039;t really have more of a comment on that, but I just think back to when I was dating and when 2-3 weeks hardly meant bf. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But maybe I&#039;m just an old fuddy duddy ;)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Did you see they&#039;ve been discussing this over on the Expat board now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, well I do appreciate your efforts to keep my blog &#8220;clean&#8221; <img src='http://bleedingespresso.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And I completely agree with you about Knox&#8217;s reactions following what happened; from all accounts she was as cool as the proverbial cucumber and whether she had a part in it or not, well, that&#8217;s a bit odd. Of course I always say we never know how we&#8217;d react in a similar situation, so I don&#8217;t like to judge other people&#8217;s reactions *too* much. But still!</p>
<p>That knife found in Sollecito&#8217;s apartment with both her and Kercher&#8217;s DNA&#8211;that&#8217;s going to be tough to explain since Kercher had reportedly never been to his apartment. Doesn&#8217;t seem she&#8217;ll be getting out of custody any time soon.</p>
<p>Another thing which is rather minor, but it&#8217;s still bugging me&#8211;  we all keep saying her &#8220;boyfriend&#8221;&#8230;they knew each other for 2-3 weeks! I don&#8217;t really have more of a comment on that, but I just think back to when I was dating and when 2-3 weeks hardly meant bf. </p>
<p>But maybe I&#8217;m just an old fuddy duddy <img src='http://bleedingespresso.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Did you see they&#8217;ve been discussing this over on the Expat board now?</p>
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		<title>By: american girl in italy</title>
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		<dc:creator>american girl in italy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha I actually had written poop on your blog, but changed it to treats. I didn&#039;t want to messy up your blog. ahhaah &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You know, even if Amanda was so drugged out, and doesn&#039;t remember exactly what happened, or whatever, you think she would have been a little more freaked out the next morning. The pics of her and her bf kissing, and seeing normal, just don&#039;t ring true. There are SOOO many weird things about this case. Sad, but I must say, interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha I actually had written poop on your blog, but changed it to treats. I didn&#8217;t want to messy up your blog. ahhaah </p>
<p>You know, even if Amanda was so drugged out, and doesn&#8217;t remember exactly what happened, or whatever, you think she would have been a little more freaked out the next morning. The pics of her and her bf kissing, and seeing normal, just don&#8217;t ring true. There are SOOO many weird things about this case. Sad, but I must say, interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: sognatrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>sognatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara, I&#039;m completely with you on the treats left behind. I found that rather weird and disgusting as well. I guess I can hope that he was just so out of it on some drug that he forgot to flush? Ew.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, I have noticed that many media outlets have actually shied away saying anything about the poop, sticking to the &quot;other DNA in the bathroom&quot; line, sometimes even pointing to toilet paper (which I&#039;m sure was also there with prints--fingerprints!). Can we not handle the poop?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OK, bad to joke about such an awful situation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I just hope the other two start telling the truth; it sounds to me like perhaps they were afraid of this guy so long as he was on the lam...wonder if they still are.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I just hope Meredith&#039;s family can find some closure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, I&#8217;m completely with you on the treats left behind. I found that rather weird and disgusting as well. I guess I can hope that he was just so out of it on some drug that he forgot to flush? Ew.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have noticed that many media outlets have actually shied away saying anything about the poop, sticking to the &#8220;other DNA in the bathroom&#8221; line, sometimes even pointing to toilet paper (which I&#8217;m sure was also there with prints&#8211;fingerprints!). Can we not handle the poop?</p>
<p>OK, bad to joke about such an awful situation.</p>
<p>I just hope the other two start telling the truth; it sounds to me like perhaps they were afraid of this guy so long as he was on the lam&#8230;wonder if they still are.</p>
<p>I just hope Meredith&#8217;s family can find some closure.</p>
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